12: Reclaiming Your Authentic Voice With Christina Glickman

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in the episode. All right. Welcome to mystical sisterhood.

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I'm your host, Maureen Spielman. And I'm so excited to be with

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Christina Glickman, today, I met Christina years ago, as we were,

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I was starting a business, she was already an entrepreneur, and

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she guided and mentored me. But, Christina, I think you so

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succinctly, in your sort of like tagline, under your signature,

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kind of say what you do, and I'm just gonna read it. You have

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mother, TEDx, speaker, author, podcaster, and you're the

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founder of extra love army. So I'm just gonna, I just wanted to

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share that with our audience, because it was just so simple,

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the way you have it written out. And I want to touch upon all

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those things today. And I think our conversation is going to go

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a lot of places, when I think of you, I think of a woman who is

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an absolute 1,000% champion of other women, you live life,

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unabashedly as yourself, you show up in such a real way, with

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people that I think it creates a safety and really sacred space

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for them. So those are just just some beginning, introduction

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points I want to make for you. Christina also has a book called

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extra, the art of being it's a beautiful, I don't even know how

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to explain it. Coffee Table Book, with your fashions, and

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your take on life. And again, you've got this way of doing

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these things that simple, it's straightforward. And it just, I

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just think it speaks to people. You're now I'm having a weekly

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podcast called Extra Life and style unscripted. So we're gonna

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talk about that, because what you say about living life,

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unscripted, might say, at all, not sure. And then you have a

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TEDx talk. And those are just some of the things that you've

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got going on. But I want to welcome you here today and say,

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I'm so grateful to be in your energy and your presence, and

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how you doing?

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Oh, my gosh, thank you for having me. Those

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are such nice words. I just adore everything you're doing.

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And thank you for opening the container for so many women to

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hear about the conversations that you've been having for

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years. And so for me, just as your friend watching you

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completely come alive in this new type of business. It's just

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such a joy. So I'm honored to be here and privileged to be with

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your community and your sisterhood. And I love

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everything you're doing. And can I just say, as a fan of yours,

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like keep doing it? Like keep keep, keep introducing us to

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people? I was just about to press play on the one that you

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were talking about yesterday? Because there's so many I can't

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even pronounce the word, the recording what that word is

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within a I think the Akashic Record. Yeah, yeah. I don't know

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what that is. It's like how beautiful that you're

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introducing us to so many things. So just thank you as a

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fan of your work. And I am excited about our conversation

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today. And hopefully, we can, you know, have some insightful

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chat, hear about all the work that you do.

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Thank you so much, Christina. And I think

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that's right. I think that for the people that I'm having on

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first these concepts, and they're they all are new

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learnings to me at some point, too. So you know, we're all

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overlapping and layering on what we know. And it's amazing. You

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just said something about, I don't know how you just said it,

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but it was like a new way of doing business or this new way

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of entrepreneurship here. Why don't we start

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there? Sure. I mean, absolutely. And I think

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it's because as of late, I really talked about my life and

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for others as us being life entrepreneurs, meaning that

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we're equally ambitious professionally as we are

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personally. And so I think If you have a sense of curiosity

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and wonder, and always knowing that the person you're talking

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to has something to teach you, and just sort of being open to

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that presence, for me is how a new kind of entrepreneurship was

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born. Because I think before, for me, it was always about the

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chase and the hustle and the accolades, and the success and

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the productivity and all the things that programmed me that I

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identified with that made me feel worthwhile and valuable.

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And it's taken me years to sort of shed that skin to understand

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that all of those sort of mechanics and pieces of it

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really don't make my identity and, and that it takes a lot of

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work. I'm still working on it, I think I'll be working on it

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forever. But I think the moment that we released some of those

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badges, if you will, then we are able to become entrepreneurs of

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our own passion and joy. And because again, we all know that

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operating with anxiety and fear is exhausting. And it's the same

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that holds true for operating without our authentic self.

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Because, you know, if I come on to this podcast, and I think,

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oh, my gosh, I want to be as great as Marine, I'm going to

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fail already, because I'm not you. And instead if I can come

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on and say, I'm just bringing my whole self and my intention is

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pure, and I hope that something I say lands on someone to has to

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be enough.

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Oh, I love that. Yes, yes. And our pieces

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come together, and they complement one another. Yeah. I

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like what you said about this concept. I have not heard that

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of life entrepreneur. Because when I started, I said, the

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first thing you say, in that tagline is Mother, you know, so

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the old version of the entrepreneur would be like,

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what's your business? What do you serve to your business? You

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know how much money you're gonna make through it. But then you

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start with mother. So that to me, says, oh, that's part of

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that life entrepreneur, that's it's got its Christina is not

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just not only the extra love army, she's much bigger than

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that.

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And I used to, I used to fight against so

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many. And I think a lot of a lot of the people listening will

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understand. I used to fight against so many of those badges

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because they did give me a comfort of who I was right. So

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so you know, if I'm not a mother, what am I if I'm not a

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working woman or an entrepreneur, what am I? And

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I've realized, and I'm sure you have to that, you know, we're

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many things right, were a bunch of hands. And that's a beautiful

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thing. And as I sort of learned the power of reflection, I'm

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understanding why I've done certain things in my life. And I

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will never think any step is a mistake or a regret. I think

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it's all about the journey about who we are. But even when I look

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back in the past couple years of my life, I think there's certain

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moves I made because my ego needed them, or I needed the

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credibility or validity to feel like I was important enough. And

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so I feel like the older I get, and the more work I do, the more

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I also realize that the here and now in the moment I'm in and the

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work I'm doing like, again, it's exactly where I'm supposed to be

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and the universe isn't gonna miss me. And I just am very,

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very aware that the only energy that I want to chase is peace. I

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don't want to chase anything else, because I did it for so

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many years. Right. And I also don't judge anyone that's in

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that moment of, of hustle or energy because it gets you to

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where you are. And hopefully, if we talked in five more years,

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I'd be like, I don't even know who that person was, you know,

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in the greenery coat. Because I hope that we're always, you

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know, evolving and changing in that way.

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I love that. And I think that that we can see

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at the versions of the woman, the human that we were before we

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see it in one another. Yeah. So I think as we kind of settle

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into this new way of being with women, look where this group is,

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my listeners are a lot of women identified. And I think that

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we're settling into this newer way of being where it's like,

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okay, we can we can put the hustle down. We can't and it's

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instilled, there's a lot on the outer, that's telling us we need

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to we need to chase it, we need to go for it. And it's up to us

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to make that decision. But I think like sitting in these

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circles sitting in these conversations where we're like,

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No, I see you. I've been there. Even if I haven't been there,

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I'm here for you. I'm to witness you to see your healing to see

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your growth and your transformation.

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I mean, and I think that that's what you hit

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upon, which is that I don't think anything's ever going to

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trump that power of human connection. And so by you

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opening up the container for all of us to have a discussion what

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it's what it's saying is the age old. I see you, I hear you, I

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validate you, I've been there, you've been there. So I think

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you're just kind of giving voice to the fact that you're not

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alone. And we are all trying to do something with parenting or

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something with an illness or something. It doesn't matter.

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But I think that the power of storytelling is so extreme and

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I, you know, as I've sort of thought about for myself, you

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know, I'll ask myself often like, Well, what do you do? And

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who are you? And what are you doing. And I think for me, it

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will always be that thread of, through the through storytelling

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of my own and other women, and especially women, I feel that it

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ultimately transformed somebody into thinking or being or doing

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differently. And, and whether or not somebody is in a position

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where they hear a story, and they want to do something

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different with their lives, or just makes them feel better. I

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also feel like we come in and out of when we're ready to hear

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a story. So that's why you know, you and I talking about whatever

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if the same topic is confidence, or whatever it might be, we need

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you. And that's why there's always room for everyone to open

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the circle, because that is why I love to champion, especially

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women so much is because everyone has something to share,

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if you're willing to share it. And so, the idea being if I tell

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you a story, or I tell you somebody else's, you're probably

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gonna see something of yourself in it. And it's gonna make you

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feel better. Yeah. And isn't that what we're just trying to

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do every day? It's kind of simple, but it's also really

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hard.

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Absolutely, yeah. And it reminds me of just

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re listening to your, your TED talk, I'm just gonna go there

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for a moment. Because that that started out with storytelling.

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Yeah, and I know, that's something that you greatly

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prepared for, and put so much love and energy to, and I just

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gonna say just as a little side, that your message of extra and

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extra love is so felt, and so needed. And that delivery of

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love, and it was no accident that I'm on my way to school

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today, dropping my son, the car in front of me had two stickers

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that said, Love on this bumper today. But tell our audience

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about how did this TEDx talk about? What was that topic you

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chose?

Christina Glickman: 00:12:01

Sure. And I love to talk about Ted. But it's

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funny, I like to talk about Ted about the journey of it. And so

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I feel like insert yourself into the story. Forget about Ted,

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like, who cares if you want to do something like that great. If

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you don't, who cares? The idea is just about, I truly became

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somebody else through the process. And the end of the

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result, for me was a feeling of that there was no place I don't

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belong. And I couldn't, it has nothing to do with the

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accomplishment of a TED Talk. It has everything to do with the

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moment that I said, I think I want to do this. And so to kind

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of like reverse a little bit, you know, I had about five years

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ago decided that I needed more creativity in my life. And, and

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I knew there's something more I wanted to do is I think a lot of

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women just always like there's something else for me to do. And

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again, to be clear, you don't have to, like start a business

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or do something wild. But there's usually an ache of

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something else that like, you know, what I was meant to do a

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little bit more here than maybe parenting or we're not quite as

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fulfilled as we'd like to be. And so for me, it was through

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the filter of creativity. And out of that became the book and

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a few things well cut to, I felt that I had a message burning

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inside of me that I ultimately wanted women to sort of stand up

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and understand that they have more to give if they're willing

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to do it. And because we were in this pandemic world, the TED

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talk is about women reclaiming their voices, and finding their

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identity in the pandemic, because I think we've all seen

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the articles that there's been this rally cry for women that we

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are the ones that have suffered greatly during the pandemic. And

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you know, you've got millions of women that left the workforce

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and never came back. And I don't want to get into that rabbit

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hole. But the reality is that you are then taking out of the

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equation of our society, incredible minds, women that

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were at tables that are no longer there, whether it's in

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innovations or so. So we all took a step back. So the idea of

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the talk was to just tap you on the shoulder and be like, hey,

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like, I see you too. And it's not over. And by the way, all

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those women that got us here aren't going to be too pleased

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if the rest of us don't keep going. Right. Right. And so that

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was the the hope of that talk. But the real journey of that

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was, I think, and just from my personal standpoint, that

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because I was on this sort of career path of being a speaker.

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I felt like I needed TED to feel important. I felt like I needed

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to say I'm a TEDx speaker. That was my original ego driven goal

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of it. And I knew how hard it was to achieve and I wanted that

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really bad. And so when I for me, I had to go through this

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interview process and that was all difficult. But the funny

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part is by the time I got to the very end of that red.it was no

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longer even about that Tada moment anymore. It was all about

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the fact that it was so hard for me. I wanted to give 1000 times,

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I was like, why am I doing this, all those things and, you know,

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the ripple effect of my children being able to see me putting

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myself out there. And, you know, if you've talked to people that

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have done Ted it, for some reason, even as somebody that's

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a speaker, it is the most vulnerable thing you can do,

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because you're up there without a piece of paper in hand, and

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it's just you. And it was different because it's your

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story. And there's just something different about it.

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But but to kind of get back to your question a little bit. I

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think the biggest thing i'd love people to take away from Ted is,

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if you want something, try to go for it, whatever it is. And in,

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it's not actually about getting it. It's about just saying yes

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to yourself, and I share with my community along the way, how

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difficult it was to go through that process. And I would get

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messages from people saying, you know, it's so great to see you

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put yourself out there, maybe now I'll go try to get that

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position at XYZ. So, again, it's the story of when we share one

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another, that makes me say, you can do it. Well, I can do it,

Christina Glickman: 00:16:05

too.

Maureen Spielman: 00:16:07

Yeah. And I think a lot of people saying

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that, you know, you'll always hear that. If I can do it. You

Maureen Spielman: 00:16:13

can do Yeah, yeah, I think like, yeah, right. We it seems so easy

Maureen Spielman: 00:16:17

to you, right? Of course that was, but you're saying no, the

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process was actually, it was pretty intense. No,

Christina Glickman: 00:16:24

I mean, it was awful. It was awful. And,

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and I mean, I was like praying for COVID to hit so that it

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would be shut down. Like that's how much I didn't want to do it

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anymore. And I and nothing that good comes that easy, right?

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Even when you think it is. And the other thing that I also

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wanted to just have other people feel is that everything's

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available to you? Yes. So if you don't think it is, I'm sorry,

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but it's an excuse. Because if you want it, you're gonna get

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it, and you're gonna do it. And so you're hiding behind it. And

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whatever the reality is, and so making movement towards whatever

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that goal is, because that is for me, I think the thing that

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makes me craziest is that, you know, we have one life here,

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period. And are you creating life? Or are you letting life

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create you? And I don't want to go through the motions. I don't

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want to just wake up in five years and say, Well, what just

Christina Glickman: 00:17:18

happened? Yes.

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:19

And five years went by, I had seen a quote the

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:22

other day, I'm not going to get it right. But it was on social

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media. And someone said, like, make sure you're in the rooms,

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:29

with the people having the conversations that bring you

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:33

higher, and that's the work you're doing. And I even think

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:35

like a conversation like this, is that so? Oh, yes, give the

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:39

permission that sometimes we don't know we can give

Maureen Spielman: 00:17:42

ourselves. Yeah, and I think

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it also, it also starts with, for me getting

Christina Glickman: 00:17:49

very real in the past few years. And I know this will resonate

Christina Glickman: 00:17:52

with you about protecting my energy. And I didn't realize

Christina Glickman: 00:17:55

that commodity I was giving away so freely. And so I started to

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do this thing every week, which I do every Sunday called the IQ

Christina Glickman: 00:18:02

test. And I have a paper calendar because I'm like a

Christina Glickman: 00:18:05

dinosaur and archaic and I like to see things written out. And I

Christina Glickman: 00:18:08

sit there and I look at my week and I say what are the things

Christina Glickman: 00:18:11

that make my stomach hurt? Like, what is on my calendar that I

Christina Glickman: 00:18:14

don't want to do? Now again, it's life. I know, we have

Christina Glickman: 00:18:17

things we don't want to do. But in general, am I saying yes to a

Christina Glickman: 00:18:20

coffee that doesn't like fill my soul? Because I'm just sitting

Christina Glickman: 00:18:23

there asking the questions and not receiving anything back? Am

Christina Glickman: 00:18:27

I Am I saying yes to volunteering, because I don't

Christina Glickman: 00:18:30

want somebody to think I'm not a nice person. Am I? What am I

Christina Glickman: 00:18:33

doing in my life that is getting me further away from how I want

Christina Glickman: 00:18:37

to feel at the end of the day, because that's how I've

Christina Glickman: 00:18:39

transferred my brain like it's no longer what did I get done

Christina Glickman: 00:18:42

today? Or how productive I was. It's like I don't want to feel

Christina Glickman: 00:18:45

at the end of the day. And for me, I always want to feel, first

Christina Glickman: 00:18:49

of all that the people that I love know that I love them. Like

Christina Glickman: 00:18:51

that's never as generic as it is. It's never gonna go away.

Christina Glickman: 00:18:54

Some days. I'm not so good at it. Some days I'm good at you

Christina Glickman: 00:18:56

know, so it's a balance, but going through that now has

Christina Glickman: 00:19:00

changed my life dramatically. Because when I look at my week

Christina Glickman: 00:19:03

ahead, like, again, not to sound funny. I adore you. I love the

Christina Glickman: 00:19:07

work you're doing I get to be on your podcast, which is an honor

Christina Glickman: 00:19:10

and privilege for me. I wouldn't have said yes. If I didn't feel

Christina Glickman: 00:19:13

that. Yeah. Whereas before, I would just say yes, yes, yes,

Christina Glickman: 00:19:16

yes. Yes. Yes. Now, it's like, no, I look forward to it. I

Christina Glickman: 00:19:19

can't wait to spend time with you. And so I always say now

Christina Glickman: 00:19:22

that if I'm with you, you know, I really want to be there.

Christina Glickman: 00:19:25

Right? Yeah, no question.

Maureen Spielman: 00:19:27

I love I love the practice. I similarly, I

Maureen Spielman: 00:19:33

have been on that journey. And man, I just say it's not always

Maureen Spielman: 00:19:37

easy to to guard your time as that resource. Your energy is

Maureen Spielman: 00:19:43

that resource and I think is we are stepping into more and more

Maureen Spielman: 00:19:47

worthiness and then we'll see a rise in that as well. That's

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been my experience and I was always the classic over giver

Maureen Spielman: 00:19:56

and I know so many listening. Oh identify It's like,

Christina Glickman: 00:20:01

it's like in our DNA. And, and the reality

Christina Glickman: 00:20:04

is, though, if you if you stop for a moment and you say to

Christina Glickman: 00:20:07

yourself, one, who am I surrounding myself with? And

Christina Glickman: 00:20:11

where? And are they draining my energy? Or are they adding value

Christina Glickman: 00:20:14

to it? Or this is not a selfish thing? Doesn't mean you can't be

Christina Glickman: 00:20:18

there for a friend and listen for an hour. It has nothing to

Christina Glickman: 00:20:21

do with you. It's not about that it's about we're probably

Christina Glickman: 00:20:24

putting it in the wrong places. Yes. And then ask yourself why,

Christina Glickman: 00:20:28

okay, because I want to be liked, or I want to, and again,

Christina Glickman: 00:20:30

there's no, there's no shame here, there's no, we're not

Christina Glickman: 00:20:33

doing anything wrong. But there's also this idea,

Christina Glickman: 00:20:36

especially as women that we need to fill the space, like, if you

Christina Glickman: 00:20:39

had a day where you weren't running around, you'd think

Christina Glickman: 00:20:42

you're gonna fill it. But the reality is that you also don't

Christina Glickman: 00:20:45

have to explain your time away, like your times your time. So it

Christina Glickman: 00:20:49

doesn't have to, you don't have to deserve an earn it like, oh,

Christina Glickman: 00:20:52

my gosh, I'm gonna get a massage tomorrow, because I worked so

Christina Glickman: 00:20:55

hard last week, and I don't know, like, I'm loving of this

Christina Glickman: 00:20:59

as it is, for me, that's all just a retraining. I don't It's

Christina Glickman: 00:21:02

not how I operate. I, I sort of, I always wanted to be that I

Christina Glickman: 00:21:06

like I said in my TED talk, the Real Life series, I wanted you

Christina Glickman: 00:21:09

to know that I was valuable and important and available. And

Christina Glickman: 00:21:14

that's how I pride. I used to pride myself, and I want you to

Christina Glickman: 00:21:18

think that I am so busy, and I've got so much going on. And I

Christina Glickman: 00:21:21

have got that gave me worse. And so now when people sometimes

Christina Glickman: 00:21:25

leave me a message and say, Oh, I know you're so busy. I'm like,

Christina Glickman: 00:21:28

No, I'm actually not so busy. I'm doing what I love my time

Christina Glickman: 00:21:32

now I've got a lot of things going on. But they're all things

Christina Glickman: 00:21:35

I love to do. It's beautiful. And again, I check myself

Christina Glickman: 00:21:39

though, when I find myself doing the other things. I always say,

Christina Glickman: 00:21:42

Well, why are you doing it, Christina? Okay, I'm doing it

Christina Glickman: 00:21:44

because I want to feel important. I'm doing it because

Christina Glickman: 00:21:47

I want to be liked. And again, no shame, but just a wheel with

Christina Glickman: 00:21:50

yourself. Yeah. And while you're doing it,

Maureen Spielman: 00:21:53

and like you're saying those things are

Maureen Spielman: 00:21:54

ingrained. And sometimes we're just doing them by default. So

Maureen Spielman: 00:21:59

taking that middle step of the why is such a powerful question

Maureen Spielman: 00:22:03

and and being so intentional. On a Sunday with your calendar.

Maureen Spielman: 00:22:08

Yeah. Because then I know, I'm guessing that there's more inner

Maureen Spielman: 00:22:13

peace. And then there's more almost like, almost like clean

Maureen Spielman: 00:22:17

energy to give people you want, including your children and your

Maureen Spielman: 00:22:20

husband, and

Christina Glickman: 00:22:21

there's no dread heaven, we spent enough

Christina Glickman: 00:22:23

time dreading a week. Yeah, like it's funny when when, again, I

Christina Glickman: 00:22:26

don't mean this. To make anyone feel bad, but when when people

Christina Glickman: 00:22:31

talk about like, you know, I got a message from a friend the

Christina Glickman: 00:22:34

other day saying, Oh, my gosh, I can't wait for the weekend, you

Christina Glickman: 00:22:36

know, the only happy two days of my week, right? I was like, Oh,

Christina Glickman: 00:22:41

yeah. And I understand why she got I know, I understand all the

Christina Glickman: 00:22:44

things she has going on. So it's all valid, but it's like, oh, my

Christina Glickman: 00:22:47

gosh, I don't want to wish my days away. Yeah. And again,

Christina Glickman: 00:22:50

don't get me wrong, I get life as hard. I don't like sit on a

Christina Glickman: 00:22:53

rainbow. But in general, I want to have the agency to choose

Christina Glickman: 00:22:57

where I'm putting my time. And and so if in fact, you're in

Christina Glickman: 00:23:02

that moment of time, I guess I would love for everyone to say

Christina Glickman: 00:23:04

how do I get a little bit closer to a little bit more peace?

Christina Glickman: 00:23:08

Because now I don't look at my week and in general dread

Christina Glickman: 00:23:12

anything or wish it away, or I can't wait to get to Friday. And

Christina Glickman: 00:23:15

of course I projects and things that are stressful. But I mean,

Christina Glickman: 00:23:17

in general, there's not like, Oh, I gotta do this. And I got

Christina Glickman: 00:23:21

to do that. I don't have that feeling anymore. And I did for

Christina Glickman: 00:23:24

years. Absolute years. Yes,

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:27

I know. And the transformation is such a

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:29

beautiful thing to see. And when you're just saying, like,

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:32

listen, I know, and I'm not sitting on a rainbow, because I

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:35

know you've gone through challenges, but it's being able

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:38

to sit in those. Yeah. And, and sit really sit and ponder and

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:44

ask the questions of why is this here for me? This is has to be

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:48

something that's contributing to my greater growth, as painful as

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:52

it is. And it's just like the I think you use the word

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:56

curiosity, or just the willingness, the curiosity to

Maureen Spielman: 00:23:59

say, Why is this here? For me? It's here for my growth and

Maureen Spielman: 00:24:02

transformation. Yeah.

Christina Glickman: 00:24:04

Also, I also think, especially as women that

Christina Glickman: 00:24:07

sometimes we need to be reminded, and sometimes it's our

Christina Glickman: 00:24:09

friends that remind us, you have a choice. Right, like we're on

Christina Glickman: 00:24:14

that wheel, and we're doing doing and I mean, it sounds so

Christina Glickman: 00:24:18

silly, but, you know, my husband's on a big travel for

Christina Glickman: 00:24:22

for work. And I had mentioned to my daughter that she you know,

Christina Glickman: 00:24:26

couldn't go to this practice that was important. And I would

Christina Glickman: 00:24:30

never have done that before because I didn't think there was

Christina Glickman: 00:24:32

a choice. I wouldn't want to upset her. I want to be able to

Christina Glickman: 00:24:36

her to do things but it actually was not working for our family

Christina Glickman: 00:24:38

for like 10 reasons. And so I just talked her about and it was

Christina Glickman: 00:24:41

fine. But I don't think before I would have thought I would have

Christina Glickman: 00:24:43

choice. I would have made myself crazy. I would have done all

Christina Glickman: 00:24:47

these crazy things all for this thing. And I stopped myself

Christina Glickman: 00:24:52

often and I say you have a choice. You might not like the

Christina Glickman: 00:24:54

consequences of it or but you have a choice that happening to

Christina Glickman: 00:24:59

me. I I'm creating it.

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:01

Yes, I think that that is the really clear,

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:04

smaller example of rewriting the story than you used to be in and

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:11

I'm, I'm with you, because I'm still learning. My kids are

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:15

older. They're 22. And I'm, I'm learning, communication. I'm

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:21

learning boundaries. I'm learning, investing in my own

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:24

energy. I'm learning worthiness like that's why I will always

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:28

say to anyone listening, let's hold hands and go through this

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:32

together, because we're all human. We're all doing the work.

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:36

And, and we're all figured out. Yeah, we're at different places,

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:40

but we're not. Right.

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I couldn't agree with you more.

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:44

Yeah. So I love that because that's

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:46

actually, it's so seemingly, a small choice you made? Yeah, but

Maureen Spielman: 00:25:51

it's not. It's not

Christina Glickman: 00:25:52

done online. But it's a bigger thing, which

Christina Glickman: 00:25:56

is, oh, my gosh, she's a mother, am I not doing all the things I

Christina Glickman: 00:25:58

could be doing for my it unlocks all these crazy things, which is

Christina Glickman: 00:26:02

just ridiculous. But again, I think the ripple effect is

Christina Glickman: 00:26:05

showing if you have children, showing them that how do I think

Christina Glickman: 00:26:10

operate, operate with this authenticity, and a greater good

Christina Glickman: 00:26:15

and how it impacts other people. Like, there's just so much other

Christina Glickman: 00:26:18

beauty to it than being like a martyr. I got to do all these

Christina Glickman: 00:26:21

things, like and I did that for years, like I played that

Christina Glickman: 00:26:25

Cinderella card. I don't think it was on purpose. But that's

Christina Glickman: 00:26:28

just what I did. Now I'm actually embarrassed by an

Christina Glickman: 00:26:32

exhaustion, meaning that's my fault for getting there. Like,

Christina Glickman: 00:26:37

get it in check. And so I'm not like a little bit if things

Christina Glickman: 00:26:42

aren't going well in that way. And please, no, I don't mean

Christina Glickman: 00:26:45

illnesses and things that are very, very traumatic. I mean, in

Christina Glickman: 00:26:48

everyday life, it's like, get it, you know, clean up your side

Christina Glickman: 00:26:51

of the street, get it in check here. And that's a big thing.

Christina Glickman: 00:26:55

And I will just always say, just do one tiny thing. Does that

Christina Glickman: 00:26:58

mean? Maybe you're gonna take shower today? Does that mean?

Christina Glickman: 00:27:01

Maybe you're gonna make an extra cup of coffee for yourself? Does

Christina Glickman: 00:27:04

it mean you might leave a note for your friend? Because you've

Christina Glickman: 00:27:06

been thinking about them? Like, I'm not talking big and

Christina Glickman: 00:27:08

dramatic? I'm talking about the smaller things because today's

Christina Glickman: 00:27:13

it? Like, there's kind of no waiting. There's no like Teddy

Christina Glickman: 00:27:17

Bear parade, magical unicorn rain outside my house like

Christina Glickman: 00:27:21

today, is it? Like we're here?

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:26

Yeah, just take the day, what is going to

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:29

be my choices will be how I play out today. But I love that

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:33

because you know, you just shared a lot. And you are your

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:37

kids can look at you as a woman who's invested in her own

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:41

growth. I mean, what could even be more beautiful. But also back

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:46

to your other point? Your because some things are still

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:49

doing right? You're, you're building your extra love army,

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:52

you're recording your podcast, doing your business coaching,

Maureen Spielman: 00:27:56

but the restoration, the restoration is like the piece

Maureen Spielman: 00:28:00

that we've been missing for a long time. And

Christina Glickman: 00:28:03

not apologizing for it. And that and

Christina Glickman: 00:28:07

that's, you know, that's in my house. We all have to work on it

Christina Glickman: 00:28:11

constantly. Because I've I've sadly trained my children to be

Christina Glickman: 00:28:15

that way. Oh, mama, I'm so sorry. For an eye. Yeah, hey,

Christina Glickman: 00:28:20

when we stop it, and I, I just channeled over instead to say

Christina Glickman: 00:28:24

thank you for waiting, don't apologize. They just say thank

Christina Glickman: 00:28:27

you for waiting, like, try to flip it. And I catch myself too.

Christina Glickman: 00:28:31

But you know, this these are, you know, years and years and

Christina Glickman: 00:28:34

years of systemic issues that we all carry. And I think it just

Christina Glickman: 00:28:38

starts though, in these conversations in our own homes,

Christina Glickman: 00:28:41

slowly as we move through our day. And I think that's how we

Christina Glickman: 00:28:45

impact one another. If it gets bigger than that, then I feel

Christina Glickman: 00:28:49

like I don't even have a role because I can't change anything.

Maureen Spielman: 00:28:52

Yeah, but yeah, I love that. Because also,

Maureen Spielman: 00:28:56

you know, talk about what you've created around the extra love

Maureen Spielman: 00:29:00

arm me because these kinds of conversations and people's real

Maureen Spielman: 00:29:04

experiences, I'm guessing really get to be shared there. And it's

Maureen Spielman: 00:29:09

just like that meeting, meeting you where you're at? Yeah,

Christina Glickman: 00:29:13

it is. And I love that because I always say,

Christina Glickman: 00:29:15

you know, meet me where I'm at, not where you want me to be. And

Christina Glickman: 00:29:18

the extra love army was created during the pandemic. And again,

Christina Glickman: 00:29:21

I always go backwards. I didn't have this grand plan. But it was

Christina Glickman: 00:29:24

during the pandemic where I felt like women were missing

Christina Glickman: 00:29:27

conversation. And so I opened the doors and said, This is

Christina Glickman: 00:29:30

going to be a safe space for women to share about what's

Christina Glickman: 00:29:34

happening in their everyday lives and truly just their own

Christina Glickman: 00:29:38

kind of like a you know, their own hype woman squad, or, or

Christina Glickman: 00:29:41

whatever it might be, whether it was about entrepreneurship or

Christina Glickman: 00:29:43

parenting or motherhood, or, you know, anything and everything.

Christina Glickman: 00:29:48

And so each month we have a theme, whatever it might be, I

Christina Glickman: 00:29:50

don't know what this month's theme. I think this one month's

Christina Glickman: 00:29:54

theme is about like, what are you calling in? And so it's just

Christina Glickman: 00:29:56

a constant conversation that I think women just want to share

Christina Glickman: 00:30:01

with one another in a safe space about whatever it is that

Christina Glickman: 00:30:05

they're trying to do. Or maybe they're walking through grief.

Christina Glickman: 00:30:08

Or maybe they are having a tough time in their relationship.

Christina Glickman: 00:30:12

Because it's all connected. It's your sisterhood. It's what

Christina Glickman: 00:30:15

you're doing here. And the more and more than we create these

Christina Glickman: 00:30:19

containers for all of us, that's a beautiful gift. And people

Christina Glickman: 00:30:24

find their space. And we need more and more. Right?

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:28

We do. I've heard so many people say there

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:31

are 7 billion people on the planet. Why? Right? Yeah, mind

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:35

blowing. So the conversations are so key and crucial. And I

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:39

think redefining the conversations that we're having,

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:42

and, and really, I think a lot of time, when you get in these

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:45

spaces, the conversation can go deep, real fast. And, and

Maureen Spielman: 00:30:49

people, people are craving it, I love that.

Christina Glickman: 00:30:52

And the other thing, just to just to

Christina Glickman: 00:30:54

your audience that I want to remind anybody of whatever

Christina Glickman: 00:30:57

they're doing, whether it's interior design, or whatever it

Christina Glickman: 00:31:00

might be like we need you. And so I always say like I'm a dime

Christina Glickman: 00:31:04

a dozen the things I've been talking about for years now. I

Christina Glickman: 00:31:07

mean, I'm just saying I this is no rocket science here. But what

Christina Glickman: 00:31:10

is different is me, what's different is you what's

Christina Glickman: 00:31:13

different is anybody bringing themselves to the table, and we

Christina Glickman: 00:31:16

need them. And so just a reminder, like, you know,

Christina Glickman: 00:31:20

because again, some of the clients that I work with, like,

Christina Glickman: 00:31:22

Oh, should I do a podcast? Everybody has a podcast, I do a

Christina Glickman: 00:31:25

book everybody, you know, people have books. It's always like,

Christina Glickman: 00:31:27

you have to strip all that away and stay in your own lane and

Christina Glickman: 00:31:30

say, What is your intention and the message that you're hoping

Christina Glickman: 00:31:33

to put out into the world? And is that right for you?

Christina Glickman: 00:31:37

Otherwise, we we've stopped herself before we got off the

Christina Glickman: 00:31:40

block? Yeah, because it right. And that's a very common thing

Christina Glickman: 00:31:44

to do. And so again, I just want to say how proud I am of you of

Christina Glickman: 00:31:47

stepping into this work and doing the things that we all

Christina Glickman: 00:31:50

need? Because we need everybody?

Maureen Spielman: 00:31:52

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I and I think that to

Maureen Spielman: 00:31:56

your point, everyone's voice is needed. And our voices come from

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:01

our life experiences. Yeah. And everyone's life experience is

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:05

different, we might have commonalities that we can share.

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:08

Yeah, we're so different. And we have different vibrations. And

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:12

yes, different energies will be attracted. But you know, when

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:16

you were saying something earlier about? Well, even your

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:20

your business coaching clients is like, Oh, here's this like a

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:24

array of things you can do. But I found, listen to your

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:29

intuition. Listen to that. Some people call it the small still

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:33

voice sometimes I think it's the big loud voice. Sure, it will

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:36

lead you, it will lead you and it's like, which one are you

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:39

feeling most drawn to? And I was something you said earlier

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:42

about? You know, you could not not do this the work that you

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:48

stepped into. And even though it may even the TED Talk, even

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:53

though it was overwhelming, something was pulling you for

Maureen Spielman: 00:32:56

right. I always think of that as the universe. It's like, calm,

Maureen Spielman: 00:33:00

calm.

Christina Glickman: 00:33:01

and I are having a stage right now of

Christina Glickman: 00:33:04

really practicing listening to what the universe is inviting

Christina Glickman: 00:33:07

in, get trying to get trying to get better at that. But I think

Christina Glickman: 00:33:12

you're right. And the other question I would ask yourself in

Christina Glickman: 00:33:14

general is like, is it harder not to do something than to do

Christina Glickman: 00:33:16

it? Because life's gonna march on anyways? Yeah, so a lot of

Christina Glickman: 00:33:20

times, again, resistance, we have resistance to most

Christina Glickman: 00:33:24

everything and a lot of ways. But that resistance to me is the

Christina Glickman: 00:33:28

invitation to do it. And, and so that's what I try to listen to.

Christina Glickman: 00:33:33

And if I if it's too big, and too, I can't get my head around

Christina Glickman: 00:33:36

it. I always say what's the next next best thing I can do to get

Christina Glickman: 00:33:40

closer to it? I find myself often not knowing how to do it.

Christina Glickman: 00:33:46

Like in general, I'm like, Well, that sounds great. But I don't I

Christina Glickman: 00:33:48

do that like all the time. And so like, what's the first thing

Christina Glickman: 00:33:52

which is usually like a Google because I really don't know how

Christina Glickman: 00:33:56

to do a lot of things. And but again, movement is hope. Right?

Christina Glickman: 00:34:01

So just that little movement is is what makes us like have a

Christina Glickman: 00:34:05

more skipping our step. We actually want to make dinner and

Christina Glickman: 00:34:08

go on with our day, because you're pouring into yourself.

Christina Glickman: 00:34:12

And so many of us don't, because we either don't know what to do,

Christina Glickman: 00:34:15

or maybe we don't really feel that we deserve that or, and to

Christina Glickman: 00:34:19

me, that's just so sad. Like I want every woman to feel a sense

Christina Glickman: 00:34:24

of intention. Absolutely, in some way.

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:28

And that's I think that that's I don't know

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:30

how you got through it when you were preparing for the TED Talk.

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:33

And it was so challenging for you. But the support and the

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:39

groups and the conversations and you're safe people. Yeah,

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:42

they're golden to getting where we need to take the one step

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:47

after the other and that the steps that we take, they're

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:51

invisible to us sometimes. So like you're saying, you know, do

Maureen Spielman: 00:34:56

the self care, do the you know, take care of the little steps.

Maureen Spielman: 00:35:00

Even if it's twice a week, not once a day, no,

Christina Glickman: 00:35:02

sure. Yeah, I mean, we're not we're not

Christina Glickman: 00:35:04

meant to do this alone, that's for sure. And if you are, that's

Christina Glickman: 00:35:07

super hard. And, you know, I think the other thing is that

Christina Glickman: 00:35:11

there is an invisible transformation that happens that

Christina Glickman: 00:35:13

most of the time we don't see until much further down the

Christina Glickman: 00:35:17

road. And at the same time, that's where that universe comes

Christina Glickman: 00:35:20

in for me of saying, I need to trust that my success will be

Christina Glickman: 00:35:24

inevitable, I need to trust that, that what is meant for me

Christina Glickman: 00:35:29

is where I am headed. There's just a lot of trust. And I

Christina Glickman: 00:35:33

always say, the opposite of it really sucks. So let's blow

Christina Glickman: 00:35:38

sunshine up my own self here. I'd rather live in there. I

Christina Glickman: 00:35:42

mean, what's the opposite saying, Oh, that is not meant

Christina Glickman: 00:35:45

for me. It's gonna totally suck. I really think that it's gonna

Christina Glickman: 00:35:48

be okay. I mean, I don't know, there's there's just for me, I

Christina Glickman: 00:35:52

can't operate in a different energy. That makes me not want

Christina Glickman: 00:35:57

to do anything. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I know why we a lot of us

Christina Glickman: 00:36:01

feel that way. But it's doing that work to have that trust, I

Christina Glickman: 00:36:05

guess I say universe, because that's for me spiritually where

Christina Glickman: 00:36:07

I go, but I don't know, I but also, maybe you can give me some

Christina Glickman: 00:36:12

advice. I've also been walking around like looking for signs,

Christina Glickman: 00:36:16

I'm laughing at myself, because I don't really know what that

Christina Glickman: 00:36:18

means. But I'm always like, give me this time.

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:24

And there they are. They just like coming.

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:26

They're coming. They're coming. If you listen to Valerie, what's

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:30

podcast a couple of weeks ago, they are coming. They're there

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:33

for us all the time. And they're there for us when we least

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:37

expect it. And I think that it's being able to also decipher the

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:43

science and that it's almost like a dream. You know, like

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:45

what? Dreams? It's not exactly what it seems like it is right?

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:50

Not the literal interpretation. But yeah, I think the more that

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:55

I say to the universe, I'm open to the signs I start my day that

Maureen Spielman: 00:36:59

way. Yeah. But am I here to know, and I can have a day where

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:02

I don't feel like I see any or hear any or whatever it is. But

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:07

you might also be receiving it in different ways. So for you,

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:12

it might not just be coming through a visual sign that you

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:15

see, you know, on the supermarket grounds, you know,

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:20

something you just went over? It could be you're hearing it, and

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:23

you get your messages that way. So those are signs to I think,

Maureen Spielman: 00:37:28

yeah,

Christina Glickman: 00:37:28

like that. Well, you know, I will say to

Christina Glickman: 00:37:30

that, as I'm sort of, I think like tuning up my spidey senses

Christina Glickman: 00:37:35

to the universe. I also feel like I've been practicing a lot

Christina Glickman: 00:37:38

of grace when, when I when I don't feel settled are familiar

Christina Glickman: 00:37:43

or like it's okay to not be okay, I guess is the thing,

Christina Glickman: 00:37:47

meaning. I trust that my flow will come. So if I wake up one

Christina Glickman: 00:37:54

day, and I'm not in that energy, which we all know when we're not

Christina Glickman: 00:37:57

in that energy. I don't force myself anymore. I just say like,

Christina Glickman: 00:38:01

Okay, so today, like, maybe I haven't an off day, or maybe

Christina Glickman: 00:38:04

today's not feeling whatever reason, and I just kind of like,

Christina Glickman: 00:38:08

let that go with instead, I used to just push, push, push to make

Christina Glickman: 00:38:12

myself be something or do something. And now it's like,

Christina Glickman: 00:38:15

no, I'm like, not feeling it.

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:16

Absolutely. Like, that's why I think that on

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:19

the journey, the reminders to each other, not only for the

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:22

restoration, but for the self compassion. Yeah, that's a big

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:27

one for me, because I had just said it in another recording I

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:30

did. But I spent so many years not knowing what I was doing.

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:35

And I had, I think I did have this deep yearning in me. But I

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:40

was also operating from real survival places within myself.

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:45

And feeling such overwhelmed from early mothering feeling

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:49

like this, like story, like, I don't know what I meant to be

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:53

doing. And it was, oh, it was tough going there for years.

Maureen Spielman: 00:38:57

Yeah. You know, and that was, that was layers of myself that

Maureen Spielman: 00:39:01

through the work, like I've been able to let go of and, and

Maureen Spielman: 00:39:05

really, sort of own you got to Oh, but you also have to have

Maureen Spielman: 00:39:08

that compassion, and I, and I really try to turn that on

Maureen Spielman: 00:39:12

myself and be like, so for those days you're talking about and

Maureen Spielman: 00:39:15

like, just Yeah, yeah, I see you. You need a rest today,

Maureen Spielman: 00:39:18

because that could be all the universes. Dominus?

Christina Glickman: 00:39:21

Yeah. And I think you said something really

Christina Glickman: 00:39:23

important too, which is the idea of like, you know, what's your

Christina Glickman: 00:39:28

story? And what are you meant to do and all those things and that

Christina Glickman: 00:39:32

those are so hard, and I think sometimes can be a very

Christina Glickman: 00:39:36

unmotivated thing. Again, a lot of the women that I work with

Christina Glickman: 00:39:39

sometimes say, like, well, I don't even know why I'm meeting

Christina Glickman: 00:39:41

with you. I don't know what I want to do. I don't know what

Christina Glickman: 00:39:43

I'm doing. And I always say like, we're not trying to figure

Christina Glickman: 00:39:47

that out. We're trying to have movement into the next day space

Christina Glickman: 00:39:53

thing. It's almost like I always like to say, you know, what's

Christina Glickman: 00:39:57

your moment right now, instead of like, what's your story? And

Christina Glickman: 00:40:00

what's your that's so big? I can't answer that. I get

Christina Glickman: 00:40:03

overwhelmed. When somebody says to me, Well, what do you do? I'm

Christina Glickman: 00:40:05

always like, Oh, my God, I get overwhelmed. Right? That's a big

Christina Glickman: 00:40:09

question. And I think, again, that's why your podcast and

Christina Glickman: 00:40:14

talking about this one sentence will change somebody's

Christina Glickman: 00:40:18

narrative. And he heard it from you. And so it just all that

Christina Glickman: 00:40:22

it's all it takes, right, those little moments that we hear that

Christina Glickman: 00:40:25

go, oh, my gosh, remember that person said that, and for

Christina Glickman: 00:40:27

whatever reason that lands on them, didn't land on someone

Christina Glickman: 00:40:30

else. But you being vulnerable enough and courageous enough to

Christina Glickman: 00:40:34

put yourself out there has opened up a narrative that

Christina Glickman: 00:40:38

otherwise wouldn't put a spotlight on a conversation that

Christina Glickman: 00:40:40

really deserves APSET publication.

Maureen Spielman: 00:40:43

Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that we have

Maureen Spielman: 00:40:46

to know that we've all been there because it just reminds

Maureen Spielman: 00:40:49

me, if you would have told me even a year ago, your podcast,

Maureen Spielman: 00:40:53

I'll say No way. Yeah, indeed, I would say that I believe in

Maureen Spielman: 00:40:57

infinite possibilities. But more there were just parts of myself

Maureen Spielman: 00:40:59

that I had to get really comfortable with. And the whole

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:03

kind of stepping out onto any sort of platform, even something

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:09

like social media can feel revealing to ourselves. So have

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:13

the conversations in with your safe people in your safe places.

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:17

Create the safety within you to know that you're okay. You're

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:21

You're perfect as you are. And the world needs you. It at the

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:26

planet needs you. Yeah, sure does. Yeah. Well, I love that.

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:31

Christina, is there anything else that comes to mind? Before

Maureen Spielman: 00:41:34

we wrap up today?

Christina Glickman: 00:41:35

No, I feel like we were kind of all over

Christina Glickman: 00:41:37

the place. But I love that. And I think if anything for, you

Christina Glickman: 00:41:41

know, for your audience, and this, this circle that you have

Christina Glickman: 00:41:45

created and are creating, you know, I would just encourage and

Christina Glickman: 00:41:49

invite others to bring somebody with you. And it's vulnerable

Christina Glickman: 00:41:54

for even people to participate in conversation. And so, you

Christina Glickman: 00:41:57

know, look outside yourself, and maybe lend a hand to somebody

Christina Glickman: 00:42:00

that might need to be invited into something. Because I think

Christina Glickman: 00:42:04

that we all are craving, as you said, these deep connections

Christina Glickman: 00:42:07

right now,

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:08

I love that too. Because with the deep need

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:11

of the world right now, it is the it is the multiplying and

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:14

the exponential. And that's I mean, I, I'm gonna say to the

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:18

listeners to please, you know, I'm gonna have you share

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:23

Christina, but check Christina's work out through her podcast,

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:27

through her book through, you know, anywhere you can find her

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:31

because I love the podcast and your bite size, it's you taking

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:38

on a concept and infusing your experience with it, and then

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:44

sharing the wisdom that came from it. And it's, it's really

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:48

fun to listen to. And that's where i That's why I'm so

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:52

attracted to you too, because you've got the the foundation of

Maureen Spielman: 00:42:56

mystical sister hood is joy and healing and community and that

Maureen Spielman: 00:43:00

those two things can co occur. I really believe they can. And

Maureen Spielman: 00:43:04

that was born out of my health journey. And I'm like, Yes, I

Maureen Spielman: 00:43:07

want them both. I want to do the healing work. I was a joy. So

Maureen Spielman: 00:43:10

you

Christina Glickman: 00:43:11

get to write Yeah, not just but isn't it

Christina Glickman: 00:43:14

funny. And the last thing I'll say where you started in your

Christina Glickman: 00:43:16

journey, right? And where you thought you were headed, and you

Christina Glickman: 00:43:19

were wise enough to expand and grow and be around the right

Christina Glickman: 00:43:23

people. And so it's kind of like, Don't ever stop that

Christina Glickman: 00:43:26

curiosity, right. Don't ever think that either we can't or

Christina Glickman: 00:43:31

right. And again, the only way that we I think have competence

Christina Glickman: 00:43:34

to do this when we're surrounding ourselves by people

Christina Glickman: 00:43:36

like you appro quite vital. So thank you for that. You do. And

Christina Glickman: 00:43:41

thanks for having me today. Yes.

Maureen Spielman: 00:43:43

So where can people find you, Christine?

Maureen Spielman: 00:43:45

Where can

Christina Glickman: 00:43:45

they find me? They I won't go down the

Christina Glickman: 00:43:50

some of the places they can't find me these days. But you can

Christina Glickman: 00:43:53

find me on Facebook. You can find me on LinkedIn, you can

Christina Glickman: 00:43:58

find me through my podcast, as Maureen had mentioned, probably

Christina Glickman: 00:44:02

will be in the show notes or something. And I have a weekly

Christina Glickman: 00:44:05

newsletter. So you can always subscribe to that. And you know,

Christina Glickman: 00:44:10

the blogs find each other

Maureen Spielman: 00:44:12

beautiful. So I'll put it all in the show

Maureen Spielman: 00:44:14

notes. I have to say a huge thank you. It's been so fun to

Maureen Spielman: 00:44:17

talk to you today. So enlightening, and thanks so

Maureen Spielman: 00:44:19

much. My pleasure is mine. Thanks for listening to this

Maureen Spielman: 00:44:24

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Maureen Spielman: 00:44:28

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